Some spoilers for quest set-up early in Horizon Zero Dawn, Frozen Wilds DLC
Another thing about comparing this to MEA: It reinforces how easy MEA was. Cuz this is HARD.
Went wandering towards the main quest (I’m gonna refer to this as the main quest, even though it’s a side quest, cuz it’s the main quest of Frozen Wilds, ok? ok), found a pigment for this artist dude that will get me….something….and came upon the tallneck.
Have you found the tallneck?
So I did the three things the tallneck needed. This involved fighting. This involved fighting very difficult things. This meant it involved dying.
Not only was MEA easy, MEA reinforced the “find obvious cover, go there cuz obvious, shoot things” version of game combat. I got used to that. This? Less so. I tried that a couple times. Then, when I got tired of dying, I actually started thinking. This game makes you think, thus reinforcing MEA did not.
Anyway, I found the three things for the tallneck, and next I’m back to the tallneck.
This game is hard. Scorchers are hard. And, as I check the codex, there’s two more things we haven’t yet discovered.
We’re gonna love it.
I found the tallneck! I was so excited to see one on the map, I headed right over there, after talking to the chief and the guy who said he could improve my spear if I found a part from a metal bird.
Then I was GOING to get the pieces the tallneck needs, but I got distracted and wandered off in the opposite direction looking for a kind of tower-looking thing on the map. Have you seen those? Because I found those. That’s what I did last night.
Then I finally wandered back to the tallneck’s area and got thoroughly murdered by the scorcher, and then it was bedtime.
We’re gonna love it.
I love how much map there is! So much to discover! Campfires! Settlements!
Speaking of campfires, my bad habit from MEA? NOT SAVING. I forgot how important it is to GET THE HELL TO A CAMPFIRE after doing something important but not cut-scene-y, like have a LARGE FIGHT WITH SEVERAL MACHINES, so I may have had a couple of fights twice.
But hey, it’s good practice. I love it! I love this game so much!
Tip: you can silent strike demonic watchers just as well as regular watchers, so definitely sneak the hell out of that when you see watchers. Man, I love lurking in the grass and whistling to watchers to come check it out, and then stealth assassinating them. How I’ve missed this!
I want to play this game nonstop, but also I want to take forever playing this game because I don’t want to be done with it.
Yeah, I got that spear quest. Did you get the one with the woman who’s “musical pipes” from the time of the old ones has flooded? Cuz that one sounds cool. She was right there by the campfire in the settlement.
I have not seen the tower things, though I have found them on the map. I’m close to one. It’s next. Unless it’s not.
Yes, yes, that’s the scorcher that got me. Repeatedly. I would say that I finally killed it, but I didn’t. I sneaked, grabbed and ran. Dude, I learned the first time: If you don’t NEED to fight them, don’t fight them. And you don’t need to fight it to get the thing you need to get.
I AM loving it! So good for 15 bucks.
Can’t tell if sarcasm on a few of your “I love its”…..
But yes, I got into the swing of saving again rather quickly. It’s another thing on the “this game is harder than MEA” list. Though, to defend both approaches, there were a lot of times you were locked into a place you couldn’t leave in MEA, and not letting you save would have been….wait, they did that. Bastards.
But hey, if I had forgotten to save and then had to go back and forth and back and forth even more? Suvi would still be alone.
Demonic scrappers, too, on the stealth assassinating front. I killed the fuck out a bunch of demonic scrappers like that. But then I forgot that they have the whole scan thing, so a couple found me. Still, one stealth sneak, one kill.
Don’t forget critical hits on downed machines, too. Key thing.
The thing I missed? Overriding glinthawks. Love me some overridden glinthawk. Besides the scorcher, anticipate some glinthawks in the tallneck bit. And by some I mean a whole hell of a lot. Remember the override.
I am loving it already.
That’s the downside of being all snarky and sarcastic like we are half the time. I like us that way because it’s funny and it takes the edge off the horrors of everyday life in these trying times, but it makes it hard to trust ourselves when we’re actually being sincere.
I am! I’m sincerely loving this! Mostly. I mean, it was a bit frustrating to have forgotten to save and to have to go back to that one big fight again when I’d poured so much energy into it already and succeeded through heroic sneaking and fighting scorchers!–but I loved it enough that I went right back with a good will, instead of going off somewhere else in disgust. Which would certainly be an option because there are many places to go, and we can always come back to things.
And yes, I talked to the lady about the flooded giant musical instrument of the ancients, which sounded like an interesting quest both in the sense of “aw, I’d lilke to help this poor artistic lady,” and in sense of “I wonder what the answer to the mystery flood will turn out to be?” and in the sense of “I wonder what the giant musical instrument will turn out to be?” because likely we’ll look at it as players and figure that the ancients did not actually build it to spread music throughout the land.
So yeah, looks like a good quest. Which is great, because more interesting stuff to do! I want to do so many things!
Although not the hunting grounds. Not going back to those. The Lodge can pound sand, I want nothing further to do with it.
And yeah, I also reminded myself of the key lesson that YOU DON’T HAVE TO KILL EVERYTHING. Do what you gotta do and go. There’s no need to leave every single machine a smoking heap behind you. You don’t have to have some personal vendetta here.
I never trust myself. I keep getting myself into trouble.
And your having to re-do things, that was hardly the game’s fault, was it? Can’t blame the game for your forgetfulness.
Indeed, the musician quest is cool. Plus, it’s the first quest I can remember that explicitly had a tinge of “What is this thing from the old times?” in it. Sure, there were the vantage points, but aside from the fictional “old” stuff, there hasn’t been anything that vaguely resembles the “old times” that we’re currently living in.
Though it might not end up being that. I think this game very intentionally didn’t include anything particularly recognizable, like, say, fallout did. There hasn’t been any “Hey, I know that place!” moments, and I don’t think there would have been if we were more familiar with Denver.
But the Lodge, oh yeah. Fuck those places. I got the cute chick to be Sun Hawk or whatever. Something hawk. What more do you want from me, game?
Took me three or four catastrophic deaths to learn that I can just sneak on by, but I learned.
You know what else I had to be reminded of? Unlike other games, like, oh, I don’t know, MEA, falling has quite the penalty. Like, you know, dying. One cannot just drop down there with impunity any more. I learned this the hard way. I had a large fight to get a tallneck component. I won, but the thing that had said component fell off a ledge. “No problem,” thought I, “I’ll just jump down and….what just happened? No, really, WHAT JUST HAPPENED???? Shit….”
Watch out for that.
I also hopped down over a smallish-looking cliff and died instantly! We have much to relearn. I was a great deal more careful with the next precipice.
And no, I’m not really expecting the ancient musical instrument to be a specific recognizable thing from today (“oh, hey, its the Morman Tabernacle organ!”)…more I’m thinking maybe it’ll turn out to be a sewer system or some non-musical architectural feature, the way the goddess in the mountain turned out to be a locked bunker door. We shall see!
Sunhawk is right! Pretty sure. Ha…I still fondly remember that jerk dude who was Sunhawk when we got there, dying still true to his jerkiness. “My only regret…is that you’re not dying instead of me…” [dies]
Yeah, but I bet you didn’t die falling when you were about to recover a vital thingy you just fought for.
And I was hanging from a ledge! Drop to ledge my ass. Drop to reload screen.
I’m just hoping the instrument isn’t a thing that’s so obviously fictional, like, say, the bunker door. I’d love it if it was totally mundane, and so sacred to the banuk, even though that’s such a post apocalypse cliche. Like me some cliche.
Those last words were awesome. So much of this game was awesome.
And so awesome that we can have that be the last thing we do with the lodge.
Hey, speaking of things that other things turn out to be….
Did you sit down and listen to the priest dude in the settlement talk of the start of the banuk?
Priest dude…I did not. But I will next time I’m there!
Ooh, did you check out the new skills? I immediately went for the one that increases my loot-carrying capacity. Because obviously I must carry ALL THE LOOT.
Oh yes. And, luckily, I had 10 skill points just lying around. BOOM!
It’s one of those sit down and listen for a while. It’s….something that makes you wonder if you know some things about the end of the main game. Which we do.
I will sit and listen. And wonder. Definitely the next time I’m there, after I finish getting the tallneck parts and possibly (OK, probably) being sidetracked by 5 other things.
It’s…interesting. It involves a woman journeying out from a mountain, into the wilds….and stuff…..Long ago, when the Old Ones were still fresh in their graves…..
Go listen. There’s a lot more.
I’ll be sure to do that. As soon as I get around to it. Which I’m totally excited about doing!–but recognize may take a while, because stuff.
Oh, I recognize that. I know you very well.
There were about three of these sit downs you missed in the main game. And I think there were three of these sit downs in the main game.
It’s not my fault there are so many interesting things to run off and do right this minute!
I mean, a T SHIRT that is a damn lie, as, basically, I have dishes to do, but still…..
The truth doesn’t always make a good T shirt.
True T SHIRT!!!!
So ironic T SHIRT!!!!!